September 27, 2010 at 10:23 am (reasons to doubt)

I recently had a conversation with a former teacher of mine over what it means to have faith. This is what the e-mail I wrote to him said:

So, there’s the fact that because the sun has risen every day of my life, I inductively reason that the sun will rise tomorrow. This is not faith, because I have seen the sun rise before. Because the sun has in fact risen before every day at about the same time, give or take a slight difference in time of day, I expect the sun to rise tomorrow. Faith, on the other hand, is believing without seeing. I would have faith if I believed that Jesus rose from the grave. I have never seen Jesus rise from the grave, nor have I seen anyone rise from the grave. But, evidence in this case, where faith plays a hand, is not necessary because it is a special case, one that has been recorded in a special book believed by the faithful.
Therefore, faith is not something the non-theist experiences or utilizes.In other words, Inductive logic=

* A happened today,
* A happened the next day,
* Logic follows that A will happen the next day as well.


* A has authority (i.e. God). There is a hierarchy below A.
* Therefore, all things are possible under A.

Faith is taking the axiom that something impossible happened or exists and builds upon that axiom. Patternicity. Inductive logic takes an event that did happen and notices the conditions in which it happens and expects that when those conditions are replicated, the event will occur again. Patternicity. People conflate the two because patternicity does in fact exist in both faith and inductive logic. Remember, there’s no bullshit detector in our brains, only this patternicity. The two, however, are independent of each other, no matter how many times that theists want to conflate the two.

Hope that makes it easier for you.



  1. Patmos Pete said,

    The third message from heaven…

    If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

  2. cw1925 said,

    Thank you Pete for the daily update of where Iḿ going after I die.

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